Pass Tackles 2010

by Aaron Schatz
Time to continue our series presenting various 2010 stats from the multitude of Football Outsiders spreadsheets. Today, we're going to look at pass tackles. You've seen our numbers on run tackles and Stop Rate against the run. If we are separating plays into run and pass categories, that also means that we can track pass tackles as a specific stat. These totals include any tackle or assist on a receiver after a catch, but do not include sacks, passes defensed, or interceptions.
We also can measure Stop Rate on pass tackles, just as we can on run tackles. Click here for the definition of when a tackle counts as a Stop. Stop Rate on pass tackles gives us a way to measure defensive backs that comes straight out of the play-by-play, rather than being filtered through the eyes of our game charters. This is all "official" NFL data. (I say "official" in quotes because tackles and passes defensed in the official play-by-play are technically "unofficial" stats according to the NFL. It's complicated.) There's usually a good amount of crossover between the players with the best Stop Rate on pass tackles and the players who do best in Success Rate from game charting, although there are also some players with big differences. For one thing, players in Cover-2 defenses tend to do better when it comes to Stop Rate on pass tackles because they are often allowing short completions in front of them in the zone, rather than trying to prevent a catch. So this shouldn't be seen as a definitive declaration of which players were best and worst last year. It's simply one piece of the puzzle in figuring out how good defenders are, and where they excel or do not excel.
For the most part, the leaders in pass tackles are cornerbacks, but there was one big exception last year. Jerod Mayo of the Patriots led all players with 72 pass tackles. Chad Greenway of Minnesota had 61 pass tackles, making him the only other linebacker in the top dozen:
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Player | Team | Pos | Pass Tkl | Stops | Stop Rate |
51-J.Mayo | NE | LB | 72 | 22 | 31% |
23-D.Hall | WAS | CB | 70 | 24 | 34% |
31-C.Finnegan | TEN | CB | 70 | 14 | 20% |
20-A.Verner | TEN | CB | 69 | 23 | 33% |
26-A.Winfield | MIN | CB | 68 | 28 | 41% |
24-T.Thomas | NYG | CB | 65 | 15 | 23% |
20-B.McFadden | PIT | CB | 64 | 18 | 28% |
33-C.Tillman | CHI | CB | 64 | 11 | 17% |
31-R.Marshall | CAR | CB | 62 | 15 | 24% |
52-C.Greenway | MIN | LB | 61 | 19 | 31% |
41-T.Newman | DAL | CB | 61 | 11 | 18% |
23-M.Trufant | SEA | CB | 61 | 8 | 13% |
That list gives you the top ten cornerbacks. Here's a look at the top players in pass tackles, specifically for linebackers and safeties.
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Now, of course, often a high tackle total for a cornerback is evidence of a cornerback who lets a lot of receivers catch passes on him. But not necessarily. That's where pass Stops come in. Two players led the league with 28 pass Stops last year: Linebacker Stephen Tulloch of Tennessee, and Cornerback Antoine Winfield of Minnesota. Those two players were actually the only players with more than 25 pass Stops. DeAngelo Hall was third with 24.
Let's look at which players had the highest and lowest Stop Rates on pass tackles, by position. All of the tables below use a minimum of 20 pass tackles.
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Stanford Routt is a good example of how Pass Tackle Stop Rate doesn't necessarily agree with Success Rate from game charting. Routt had a surprisingly strong year in the game charting, but does poorly in Pass Tackle Stop Rate because when he did allow a catch, it was generally for a good amount of yardage. On the other hand, Asante Samuel was the best player this year in Success Rate from game charting and in Pass Tackle Stop Rate (just barely getting past our 20-tackle minimum). If we wanted to make the minimum 25 tackles instead of 20, we would add Johnathan Joseph of Cincinnati and Carlos Rogers of Washington to the Best list, and Chris Owens of Atlanta, Marcus Trufant of Seattle, and David Jones of Jacksonville to our Worst list. (Jones, of course, is the player who earned the rare title "worse than a hole in zone" according to this year's game charting.)
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If you are interested in more numbers on Pass Tackles and Pass Tackle Stop Rate, those numbers are available on every FO player page, going back to 1997. Scroll down to "Advanced Stats vs. Pass," and those numbers are shaded in a darker green than the rest of the pass stats.
Comments
14 comments, Last at 16 Dec 2011, 5:37pm
#1 by Thomas_beardown // Jun 22, 2011 - 3:07pm
Manning comes out looking good in another stat. I may have underestimated what he brings to the team.
Out of curiosity, what is the median stop rate for pass tackles for each position?
#2 by Travis // Jun 22, 2011 - 3:28pm
Is there any kind of adjustment for solo tackles versus assisted ones? Does Mayo get full credit for a tackle/stop on one of the 61 plays when he only assisted?
Just based on eyeballing NFL.com's team tackle stats for the last few years, some scorers (especially New England's) will give assists quite frequently, while some (St. Louis) do so rarely.
#3 by speedegg // Jun 22, 2011 - 3:38pm
Hm, might also due to the defense scheme each teams runs. Would be interesting to see the breakdown vs 4-3 and 3-4 (and 1 gap 3-4 vs 2-gap 3-4).
#4 by Travis // Jun 22, 2011 - 4:24pm
Some of it, sure, but not all.
Not that this means anything, but:
Patriots at Rams, 2004: 94 total tackles, 9 assists. The Patriots were credited with ONE assist in this game (288 in the other 15).
Rams at Patriots, 2008: 92 total tackles, 42 assists.
#5 by Kent (not verified) // Jun 22, 2011 - 7:10pm
Interesting with the success rates of LB's that the lessor coverage LB's are tending to be higher success rate LB's while those who are good in coverage tend to be on the lower success rate list.
I assume this is due to a staff's trust in allowing the better coverage LB's drop deeper vs TE's or in zones, giving them less of a chance to chart a "success".
#6 by prophetik (not verified) // Jun 23, 2011 - 1:18pm
worst tackle stop rate for safeties needs to be split between FS and SS. best TSR is all SSs that play on the line for their defenses, worst TSR is all FSs that play center field. it's kind of a worthless breakdown, just as bad as the run TSR for DBs. the main problem stems from the fact that most DL guys play the same distance from the line, most LBs play the same distance from the line, but DBs are all over the field. if you're separating based on position, then you can't just say DB in that way because a cornerback is technically around the same distance from the line - and has roughly the same distance to go to the ball on an outside run - as an MLB, whereas the FS is 20y off the line. i don't know if it's possible to properly rank DBs without separating them into their respective positions, as (unlike the DL and LB positions) their positions are so diverse in what they're doing, moreso than any other position in football besides maybe the tight end/fullback position, where players are blocking for the pass and run on the move or in the pocket, running the ball, and running various routes, as well as often playing ST (in the case of the fullback).
#7 by ChicagoRaider // Jun 23, 2011 - 4:28pm
It should be mandatory to disclose Nnamdi Asomugha's numbers in CB ratings, despite the fact that they don't meet the statistical significance criteria. He plays himself off of too many charts!
#8 by chemical burn // Jun 23, 2011 - 8:53pm
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about Revis. It's the rare case where small sample size isn't actually skewing results, but proving something important...
#9 by Kevin from Philly // Jun 27, 2011 - 2:34pm
Amazing to see a stat involving Asante Samuel and tackling - and it's positve!
#10 by smellslikemike (not verified) // Jun 27, 2011 - 9:47pm
because the Pats were terrible at 3rd down defense last year, is it possible Mayo had so many pass tackles because he was bad at coverage?
#11 by mikelewski (not verified) // Jun 29, 2011 - 8:43pm
These lists are completely useless and subjective. These are based on an "expert and intelligent analysis". Give me a break.
#12 by Dean // Jun 30, 2011 - 4:39pm
Well, I'm convinced. How can one possibly argue with such illumination? Sorry Aaron, I'm done with you.
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