The Week in Quotes
Football players (and coaches and front-office people) say the darndest things

The Week in Quotes: January 24, 2008

compiled by Ben Riley

SEYMOUR BUTTS?

"There are 10 [bleeping] good players on that team. But Richard Seymour is a dirty, cheap, little pompous [expletive that rhymes with witch]."

-- Chargers center Nick Hardwick, complaining about Patriots defensive end Richard Seymour after the Chargers lost to the Patriots last Sunday. During a radio interview on Tuesday, Hardwick also accused Seymour of head-butting a Chargers assistant coach (a YouTube clip that may or may not show the alleged head butt is available on profootballtalk.com)

"He's cheap and dirty and the head man just let him get away with it the whole time. They've got 10 great players on that team and when Jarvis Green comes on the field, they've got 11 great players who compete how you're supposed to play. But Richard Seymour is the biggest [b****] I've ever played."

-- Hardwick

"Head slapping, foot stomping in the pile, running by and throwing punches in your back. He's a [b****]."

-- Hardwick

"There's a field goal where he was stomping feet. Who stomps feet?"

-- Hardwick

"He plays like a punk."

-- Hardwick

"Everyone seems to think we're soft -- that we're Southern Cal boys and we're not going to play hard and we're soft and we're quitters. We're just as dirty, if not dirtier than anyone else in the league, so we like that."

-- Hardwick, in early December, after the Chargers played the Titans (Boston Herald)

"I thought it was classless, but I also understand he was hurt and frustrated. He's a grown man, and grown men usually try to own up to what happened and not rub it in, taking a loss like a man."

-- Richard Seymour, responding to Hardwick's criticisms

"We were into it the whole game. I just wasn't taking any stuff. All of it came between the whistles. Me, I'm not going to go to the media and talk bad about someone. I take pride in not crying to the media about what goes on in the line of play. If I want to say something about that, I'm going to handle it on the field."

-- Seymour

"There's no battle of words, but you can't attack my character."

-- Seymour

"I guess what I would say is that I don't expect any Christmas cards from him."

-- Seymour

"Whatever I did, it was between the whistles. Of course there is some pushing and shoving; it's a physical game. That's the way I play the game. There was nothing after the whistle, but it's a violent game and I play the game violently."

-- Seymour

"My thing is that if you're going to speak, please speak the truth. The film, if you look at the copy of the game that teams get, you can see what they were doing to me -- pushing me over the pile, and all that stuff in the trenches. You can see it yourself."

-- Seymour

"So for me, the proof is in the pudding. You judge a tree by its fruit."

-- Seymour, who did not elaborate on whether the proof-providing pudding is made from the tree-judging fruit

"I was surprised. That's the last thing I would say about Richard."

-- Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, reacting to Hardwick's allegations about Seymour's sinister tactics (Boston Globe)

"The extracurricular stuff is just unnecessary. I mean, he does stuff way after the play."

-- Hardwick, two days later during a radio interview

"No no no. No clue about that."

-- Hardwick, when asked if knew that Seymour's father was imprisoned for murder when he alleged that Seymour's dirty play was the result of his "upbringing"

"Oh yeah, totally. Well, part of it was."

-- Hardwick, when asked if his comment was meant as a joke

"I said it, whatever, I'm moving on. I mean, it'll probably get brought up next year. What's he going to do, play harder?"

-- Hardwick

"He doesn't head butt you after the play. Head butt your coach before the game. Things like that."

-- Hardwick, explaining why he feels Seymour is a dirtier player that Titans defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth (who, it must be said again, stomped on a guy's bare head with his cleat) (XX Sports Radio)

AH, THIS IS LIVIN' / SO MUCH I'VE BEEN GIVEN / FOR A BARBER WHO'S DRIVEN / TO BE THE BEST!

"I'm not, dude. I really am not."

-- Former Giants running back Tiki Barber, when asked if he was sad that he retired now that the Giants are in the Super Bowl

"It's interesting. My wife asked me that exact question. Ginny asked, 'So you have to feel, even just a little bit of remorse that you left early.' I said 'Honey, I'm trying to make myself think that and wish I was still there.' But I'm not."

-- Barber

"My life, personally and professionally, has gone a different way. My passion is elsewhere."

-- Barber

"That being said, I'm ecstatic for those guys ... I'm happy for them. I really am."

-- Barber

"I said what I said about the New York Giants because it's my job. But that doesn't mean that I'm not a supporter of New York Giants. People think I'm a Giant-hater. I'm not. I went down Tampa to watch [Ronde] play. I wasn't rooting for [Ronde]. I was rooting for the Giants."

-- Barber, implicitly suggesting that while he allegedly loves the Giants, he hates his brother (we're just kidding, Barber-inos!) (NY Daily News)

ALSO, IF THE GIANTS WIN THE SUPER BOWL, ELI COULD POSSIBLY GO TO DISNEYLAND

"He has his team in the position right now, if they win today they could possibly go on to the Super Bowl, and make an appearance there."

-- ESPN commentator Emmitt Smith, describing how Giants quarterback Eli Manning led the Giants to a position where, if they won the NFC Championship Game last Sunday against the Packers, they could possibly make an appearance in the Super Bowl. And yes, this is a Quote-of-the-Year Nominee. (AOL Fanhouse)

THE TIMES ARE TOUGH NOW, JUST GETTING TOUGHER / THIS OLD WORLD IS ROUGH, ITS JUST GETTING ROUGHER

"He can't cover me!"

-- Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress, taunting the Packers' bench and mocking the inability of Packers cornerback Al Harris to cover him during last Sunday's NFC Championship Game. Burress finished with 11 catches for 151 yards.

"I would say I lost my individual battle, which I haven't done in a while."

-- Al Harris, admitting that he was taken to school by Burress

"Not at all; you can't. He caught, what, six passes, five passes? He had a good day. A couple throws were really nice throws."

-- Harris, when asked if he blamed himself for the Packers loss

"If that will make it better, that I say, 'OK, it's on me,' then I'm cool with that."

-- Harris

"A pass is a pass, but it doesn't equal up to points. They were more drive-sustaining catches, which sucks."

-- Harris (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel)

HE MAY BE A PUNK, BUT HE'S A TOUGH PUNK

"The ACL is gone."

-- Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers, revealing after the Chargers-Patriots game that he played the entire game without the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee (San Diego Union-Tribune)

THE REST

"I don't have any idea. I was stunned. He just said he was going in a different direction."

-- Former Chargers wide receiver coach James Lofton, when asked if he could explain why he was recently fired by Chargers head coach Norv Turner (San Diego Union-Tribune)

"Like meeting Neil Armstrong on the moon. You know a guy is from a different generation when he stands up to shake hands with people ... I see one guy with a Starr jersey lift his eggs to his mouth, look over, see Starr, and the eggs just fell off his fork, he was so shocked."

-- Brian Hyland, producer of HBO's Inside the NFL , describing what it was like when he recently saw former Packers quarterback Bart Starr eating breakfast and signing autographs (Sports Illustrated)

"I don't think it's any secret that our quarterback situation hasn't been settled. So, yes, we're looking at all the quarterbacks here."

-- Bears head coach Lovie Smith, admitting that he was evaluating quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl

"Down the line, we're just looking at those decisions about who's going to be back and who we may have to look to replace. I don't want to sound evasive about extending him. That's not the case."

-- Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, sounding very evasive about whether he'll be willing to offer a contract extension to Terrell Owens (FOX Sports.com)

"That makes me feel like a real sissy."

-- FOX announcer Troy Aikman, offering his thoughts as FOX went to a commercial break showing the Packers Bikini Girls during last Sunday's subzero Packers'-Giants contest at Lambeau Field (grainy footage of the Packers Bikini Girls -- Jen, Ashley and Liz -- available here)

"Whichever team wins it, I'm going to suffer."

-- Ira Lieberfarb, a 53-year-old auto-parts wholesaler and die-hard Jets fan from Staten Island, N.Y., describing his lack of enthusiasm for the upcoming Patriots-Giants Super Bowl (NY Daily News)

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Comments

99 comments, Last at 01 Feb 2008, 5:31pm

3 Re: The Week in Quotes: January 24, 2008

Norv fired James Lofton? A different direction? I suppose his receivers were playing at too high a level recently to fit into the Norv Turner attack.

Philip Rivers may have been missing his ACL for the game but his passion bucket was filled to the brim.

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After being forced to give Rivers grudging respect and feel genuine sympathy for BLT it's nice to see another Charger step up to the baby seat and sweeten the victory with a crybaby rant.

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for some reason, i keep thinking the senior bowl is a game for retired pros. that would make lovie look even more desperate. seriously, how hard is it to make better decisions than rex grossman?

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Oh my word, there are NFL players who commit fouls during the game? You're saying there are illegal hits in the NFL?

That's shocking. SHOCKING, I say.

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By the way, it looks like Umenyora now is saying that Light (who practically shut him down in December) is a big fat meanie too - see link.

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My favorite after the whistle along the line of scrimmage story is from a game when the '70s Steelers were playing a team I've forgotten. Joe Greene starts complaining to the ref about being held, and telling the guy who was doing it to stop. Halfway through the 2nd quarter, Greene has had enough, and drops the guy with a single uppercut to the jaw, avoiding the facemask, and is unseen by the ref. He then walks deliberately towards the opposing sideline, as the guys lays on the ground semi-concious, stops about five yards away, and addresses his opponents, "I......(EFFING)......TOLD HIM....TO STOP.....HOLDING ME!!!!!!!"

The guy who I heard tell the story was on the opposition sideline, and maintains that nobody from the bench so much as uttered a peep, as Greene turned and strolled back to the defensive huddle.

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“So for me, the proof is in the pudding. You judge a tree by its fruit.”

So what does this say about Richard Seymour's plums?

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I thought it was interesting that he called Seymour "pompous". I mean, what did Seymour do before smacking the guy, say, "I am pleased to inform you that the shot I am about to deliver is the product of many, many, hours of the finest physical training that anyone in our chosen endeavor pursues, my good man!"

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I think that Brian Hyland is confusing a Bart Starr sighting and the Walter Ray Williams commercial for Denny's.

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This is very much off-topic, but did I miss the voting for the Annual FO Awards? If so, where should I have been looking?

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Re 5:

Name 5 quarterbacks who are obviously better than Grossman, and available for less than 3 first round picks. Just name 2, and I'm sure the Bears will be all over it.

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Name 5 quarterbacks who are obviously better than Grossman, and available for less than 3 first round picks. Just name 2, and I’m sure the Bears will be all over it.

You could probably pry Derek Anderson away from the Browns for less than 3 first round picks (assuming that Brady Quinn has looked good in practice). And you could certainly acquire J.P. Losman away from the Bills for less than 3 first rounders. I would say both of those guys are better than Grossman. You might be able to get a hold of Kurt Warner or Matt Lienhart from the Cardinals, as well...

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“Not at all; you can’t. He caught, what, six passes, five passes? He had a good day. A couple throws were really nice throws.”

Al Harris has a good head for math. Maybe Harris was talking about Burress' sequential catches. Six, then five. For a total of eleven.

And then he implies that, since only a couple (2 of 11) were 'really nice throws', that Harris let Burress get hold of 9 crappy tosses.

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"it’s a violent game and I play the game violently.”

That's a great quote. Anyone else suprised that there has been no video of Seymour's supposed dirty play? Nope? Me neither.

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Patriot fans won't hear this, but the Patriots are a dirty, cheap-shot team. Watch any Patriot game and every time a player is tackled, count one Mississippi, and like magic, there is Tedy Breuschi coming in with a helmet or shoulderpad into the prone player.

It's interesting that we hear the same two defenses simultaneously that we hear every single time; "The Patriots never cheap-shot anyone" and "Everyone does it."

Well, which is it? It's one of the reasons why everyone loathes the Patriots outside of the little sliver of the Northeast. I was at a family sports restaurant for the playoffs recently. The place was filled with Green Bay fans, Dallas fans, Giants fans, pretty much everyone. Yet during the Patriot game they were all united in cheering loudly and aggressively against the Patriots. I doubt Batman boxing Osama would have evoked that much emotion.

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I think Emmitt is overestimating Eli’s ability to go to the superbowl and make an appearance there. It’s a bold prediction, if you ask me.

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"Al Harris has a good head for math. Maybe Harris was talking about Burress’ sequential catches. Six, then five. For a total of eleven."

Well, Harris didn't cover Burress every play, so he MAY have only had 5 or 6 while actually being covered by Harris

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"Well, which is it? It’s one of the reasons why everyone loathes the Patriots outside of the little sliver of the Northeast. I"

Thats because the Patriots have won superbowls, and crushed your team. Its got nothing to do with morals, cheap shots, or otherwise. You can keep trying to convince yourself otherwise, but the truth is, you don't like the Patriots because they're better than your team.

Its the same reason Red Sox fans have always hated the Yankees: Because the yankees have always (excepting the last 5 years or so) been the better team.

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I'm pretty sure it was Troy Aikman who said the bikini girls made him feel like a sissy.

I think they asked Tiki Barber the wrong question. Instead of asking whether he regrets having retired the year before the Giants went to the Super Bowl, perhaps they should ask him whether he thinks it's just coincidence that the Giants went to the Super Bowl right after he retired.

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19:
I forgot, Tedy Bruschi is a meanie too.

Seriously, apart from Rodney's well-known and rightly chastised propensity for late hits, one hardly heard any complaint about the Patriots being a particularly dirty team until this year. Now, all of a sudden, every player on their roster is apparently a thug.

Somehow, I think this has more to do with bruised egos than bruised bodies.

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#23 - Its not just against the Patriots. It seems like more and more players come out to whine lately. Hardwick whines about the Pats. The Titans whine about Hardwick. The Packers whine about the Giants. Osi whines about Light. The beat goes on and on and on. Seriously, didn't these guys used to be tougher than this?

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#12 - If he actually did that, and wore a mic when it happened, it would be the most awesome thing ever. It would root even make me root for the Pats.

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Re 16:

I'm pretty sure Anderson is excatly the same player as Grossman, with a far superior supporting cast.

While Losman could be had, I don't he is worth giving up anything to get.

I guess I should have phrased me question differently. I should have said name 2 quarterbacks that can be had for equal or less value than the draft picks would add to the Bears. Improving the offensive line will help the offense way more than any journeyman qb can.

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Meh, I don't know why non-Pats fans are up in arms about piling on and late hits. For all the out-of-bounds / late hits / celebration shenanigans, it's the other team that gets the 15 yards and automatic 1st down, not the Pats. In my accounts, I've seen Rodney piling on and hitting his own teammate more than he hits an opposing player.

Stop crying to the media and talk to the rules and competition committees...just be careful what you wish for, because then the 15 free yards and automatic first downs go away. And I guess that would be a bad thing, I hear this Pats team is pretty good.

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Re: 24

I've certainly noticed an uptick in callous, dubious and sometimes uproarious quotes from players about dirty play and referees.

I'm hoping to write a column about this but what surprises me is the Commissioner hasn't gotten more heat for this. Personally, I find his performance this year remarkably weak.

He's good being Wyatt Earp with Adam Jones and Michael Vick. But he's been terrible with difficult management problems. In the middle of the season I noticed a series of players leveling serious accusations about refs and the league fixing games, refs making racist remarks, and a general challenging of the credibility of the league. (Note this is not limited to the Pats-Ravens contest, though that was certainly a startling series of comments from the Ravens players).

Sure, Goodell fined them but that's a reasonably impotent response to someone you employ essentially challenging the veracity of your product.

Where was the Wyatt Earp routine when it mattered? Where was the leadership? Why didn't Goodell come out and say, firmly, "Cut it out! This is unacceptable behavior!" Even this week, with one of the biggest games coming up, he's got players accusing each other of head butting coaches, and being thugs because of their upbringing (which could be construed as racist).

Tagliabue was by no means perfect and one could argue that situations like Adam Jones' were allowed to go on under his regime. But at the same time, he was much more deft about squashing credibility smashing speculation. Nothing was sleazier than the Jets-Patriots border war and he actually managed that situation as well as it could be managed from a PR perspective.

Goodell on the other hand has shown a real inability to lead. Why hasn't Goodell taken the reins of the spygate situation and rid the world of the constant speculation about what was on the tapes (research) and why he destroyed them (why keep them?). He seems to have taken a perverse pleasure in letting a coach and a team twist in the wind, almost as if it's part of the punishment, when in reality all he's done is extend speculation about his leagues lack of credibility, and allow talking heads to bring up any manner of past transgressions to compare this one to.

This is awful, weak leadership. I'm surprised at the free pass he gets. Jones, Vick et. al. are fish in a barrel. It didn't take Churchillian leadership to take the drastic steps Goodell took with them.

But in the more difficult situations, he's performed more like Selig than Churchill.

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I'm not suggesting that Vrabel is a dirty player, but on the Rivers interception, didn't he try to leg whip him? There was a good 'behind the QB' shot of the play and I think it is clear that as Vrabel is falling down on Rivers right, he shoots his leg out in an attempt to trip or kick Rivers.

I thought a penalty could have been called on that.

Whatever.

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#27:
If anything gets discussed/changed by the Comp Com, I am pretty sure it won't further limit defenses. If anything, I would expect a relaxation of the IC/interference emphasis or, more likely, a change in the extent of penalties for OPI (15 yards/half the distance?). That is, of course, unless Harrison retires and the Colts lure Moss away from the Pats ;-) .

#30:
That was a penalty, I agree.

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Bah, the comments linked in my previous post are now 29 and 32.

Hey, can the FO honchos proclaim a SuperBowl amnesty and get Rich off probation? This comment-shifting thing is a drag.

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Re: 19

Patriot fans won’t hear this, but the Patriots are a dirty, cheap-shot team. Watch any Patriot game and every time a player is tackled, count one Mississippi, and like magic, there is Tedy Breuschi coming in with a helmet or shoulderpad into the prone player.

Bruschi isn't dirty, he's just slow.

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re: the Wilfork video. What I see is a guy rushing the passer who throws the ball away just as the rusher is being knocked down by the lineman he just got past. I suppose Wilfork was supposed to avoid the laws of physics and not hit Losman.

Here's what Bills GM Marv Levy said: (follow the link on my name)

"When I saw what happened, I was irate," said Levy. "But I've looked at the film countless times to see if there was propulsion from another player that sent him into that position at that speed. It's hard to tell. I'm not going to throw forth an accusation. I can't say it was an obvious dirty play."

And some numbskull last week claimed that this was done intentionally at Belichick's behest. This is biased idiocy at its best.

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Browns WR Braylon Edwards, appearing as a guest on FSN's "Best Damn Sports Show Period," on Brady Quinn's Subway commercial: "During the commercial, there's a part where he's throwing the sub and the guy says, 'We can do this on Sunday.' And Brady says, 'Nah, I'm kind of busy.' I looked at him and said, 'Are you really?'" -- Best Damn Sports Show Period

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the Patriots being a particularly dirty team until this year. Now, all of a sudden, every player on their roster is apparently a thug.

Hmm .. maybe the Bengals are actually headed in the right direction....

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@31: I think you mean DPAR, not DVOA. =P

But I completely agree with you, Goodell has done roughly nothing meaningful as commisioner.

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#10 That kind of reminds me of a story about Howie Long. There was a timeout during a game against the Seahakws and the Raider waterboys were late getting on the field. Long, who'd been abusing the Seattle line as was his custom, stomped into the huddle and said something like, "Gimme that damn water. They haven't done anything to deserve it." None of the Seahawks challenged him.

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23,

No Rich, you're just making yourself look ignorant. You're dead wrong, dead wrong. Why does hardly anybody hate the Colts, the Spurs, or the Cowboys (just kidding on the last one)? Thats just what a biased Pats fan like you want to believe. And is another perfect example of why people hate the Pats. Your fans (or many of them) are insufferable, your coach cheats, your players are dirty (which is okay to admit by the way, I'm a cowboy fan and I freely admit Row Williams is a dirty punk. Somehow Pats fans can't admit the same) and we have to hear about your team like its its own sport on ESPN. Winning is but one small factor, don't let your arrogance blind you.

7,

Nope, just Pats. ;)

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On whining and why are there so many whining players today compared to [insert favorite era before 1990 or so]:

There aren't more whiners, there's more microphones. More media attention. More interviews.

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43:
Bad examples. People don't hate the Colts because, for the most part, their image is not that of winners, but of losers, at least when it matters. People don't hate the Spurs because few care that much about basketball anyway. Most baseball fans definitely hate the Yankees, and hated them even more when they were winning all the time, certainly as much as most football fans now hate the Pats. No one hated the Red Sox 4 years ago (apart from Yankess fans), but many are starting to do so now.

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43
I have to stop you right there. You make your point, it has validity mixed in there. I don't know if I've heard anyone deny the Rodney Harrison stuff. And no rational Pats fan is going to bother posting things like "Yes, Richard Seymour is a (witch)", or "I agree 100%Wilfork should die a slow painful death." It just aint happening.

So what's left over - you're reading all the antiPatriots fan comments and picking the irrational responses that are wrong and crown this attitude as the identity of the entire Patriots fan base.

If you were a fan of the 90's Cowboys, who do you most associate that team with? What are you most proud of? Troy & Emmit (pre announcing days) and the other "good guys", or Leon Lett and Michael Irvin? What if all that happened in 2008, in the time of everyone of all ages being able to use a computer without a license. You must know what it's like to be part of a hated fan base. Multiply it by 100%

I'm not sure why I bother anymore. Defending the team and fans that preside within the same locale as me, over the internet against the 31:1 ratio is a no win situation. Even if I were 100% right it can't be "won".
My main focus lately has been to enjoy the games (I have) and try to ignore the other stuff (not quite there yet).

Also, basketball is not nearly popular enough to hold a fraction candle to the NFL. And you CAN NOT put the Colts in the same category. At least not yet. They're still on the other side of that line because they can't win championshipS. Jeez, even I like the Colts, but its almost out of sympathy. They took so much time to finally get the ring, and now they have to spend another year fighting a one and done identity.

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All I'm going to say is that Scott C. in #44 gets it right. I would add that sports have increasingly merged with the celebrity culture over time, which has led to them being covered in a similar way and created an audience for the whining.

Bryant Gumbel just talked about this for a bit on Real Sports, actually. The NFL has replaced the WWE as the leading soap opera for men, and you're all just playing their game...

-Josh

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Boo hoo, the Pats are dirty, somebody needs to stop these awful men.

Give me a break.

Part of the reason people think the Pats are dirty is because their games are viewed and scrutinized by more people than any other team. I'm quite certain that if some other random team was constantly in the headlines, we'd be looking at every single play under the microscope like we do these Pats (and the networks, websites, talking heads, bloggers, FO, etc. would be sure to jam every last "controversial" play down our throats).

Nobody knows if the Lions have dirty players because, well, nobody cares.

Another reason everybody is piling on these dirty Pats is due to SMM - Soccer Mom Mentality. There are no winners, no losers, everyone gets a trophy, and nobody knows who's done well and who's done poorly because everyone is just running around in a circle. For lack of a better term - man up!

Back in the day - tough guys were glorified. The 70s Steelers will be forever known for their toughness. And we all know they NEVER played dirty! Right? Riiiiiiiite.

Imagine if we actually had the video technology back then that we have now? Imagine if we could get every single questionable "cheap" play caught on tape and put online two seconds later for the whole world to see. I wonder if these tough teams of old would have been considered tough, hard-nosed football players or dirty and cheap?

I believe it was Joe Jacoby on those old Redskins teams that used to wear unnecessary casts on his arms just to bash opponents in the head. If a current day Patriot did something like that - well, watch out ClubGate, or CastGate, or whatever.

Our society is soft and I'm willing to bet if you asked any of these old school players about the Patriots being cheap or dirty, they'd laugh in your face.

Just stop. It's football. These guys are warriors. They will police themselves between the lines.

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I agree with 44 and 45. Not to mention that, during the same time, there has been simultaneous consolidation of media, along with (related to 45) an increase in internet journalism and 24-hour journalism, where speed and the quick headline (rather than substance) rule the day.

It seems like the attention span of the mass market is limited, or at least perceived as such, and everyone jumps over themselves to focus on the same controversial stories.

The difference since even 2003 is pronounced - remember when Zach Piller commented that the Pats didn't outplay the Titans and he was generally a footnote in the story? Compare that to Hardwick's comments this week.

43. So, why do so many people despise the Cowboys? Fan perceptions are, of course, entirely rational - so, it must mean that Romo et al are eeevol...:)